# Enya Martin on Confidence, Criticism and Showing Up Authentically Online

Lucy Gernon (00:01.765)

Hello everyone and welcome to the very first episode of the Lucy Gurnan show. It feels so crazy to be saying that and today I’m sitting here with an amazing guest to kick off the new show. I was just telling her that I was on Instagram doing my usual doom scrolling last weekend, it was Christmas party season as we were recording this now, it was just before Christmas and Enya posted the most hilarious reel, it’s the most relatable thing I’ve ever seen in my life.

 

for that of you who have been to Christmas parties. So I reached out and she’s agreed to come on the show. So today I am joined by the wonderful Enya Martin. Welcome to the show, Enya.

 

Enya (00:36.994)

Hey Lucy, thanks for having me.

 

Lucy Gernon (00:39.269)

Oh my God, right. was just saying before she came on, right? I have my inhaler here in case I laugh because I’m the kind of person that when I start laughing, I get wheezy. So I’m here with her today and we have the inhaler ready. So we’re good to go. So Enya, do you want to just share a little bit about who you are for my listeners who are living under a rock or maybe who aren’t from Ireland and don’t know who you are?

 

Enya (01:00.598)

Yeah, so I’m from Dublin originally, grew up here all my life, living here. And I grew up in like a working class area. So I don’t know what it is about working class people, or maybe it’s just a family I grew up on, grew up in, or the road I grew up on. But yeah, it was just an awful lot of wit around me growing up, know. And I was raised watching comedies, Faulty Towers, know, John Cleve, a lot of his stuff.

 

Only fields and horses, know, my mom and dad had a great sense of humor and my dad’s side of the family would have been, you know, into singing, Irish dancing, performing in pandos. I spent a lot of Christmases going to see my cousin dancing in a pando and she has her own dance skill now and I’m actually going to a pando this evening actually to see Alan Hughes in his pando and that’s where I started watching Panda Mines when I was only like seven or eight so.

 

I never terrified me to stand up in front of a crowd, know, just hand me a script, I’ll do that. I was never afraid of public speaking whatsoever. But, like to make people to stand up and like tell jokes, that they terrify me, but that never crossed my mind up until I was like in my early 20s, like never stand up, never crossed my mind. So I, you know, I was in and out a lot of drama workshops growing up in skills, some of our projects and stuff like that.

 

But again, never once crossed my mind like I’m gonna do this for a living. I just thought it was a hobby, it was just something I enjoyed. And you know, I started coming out of my shell in secondary school. I was really, really shy and introverted in primary school. I run into people now who I went to primary school with and they’re like, I can’t believe you’re doing what you’re doing. Like, cause you were like, you were like a mouse in school, you know? But I just thought I had to go to college as well, like everybody else and never really liked the idea of walking for other people because…

 

I’m like just crap at taking direction. Like I can’t follow, I can’t follow instructions whatsoever. that’s what I always felt very intimidated going into workplaces, you know, and I was like, can I work as? What can I do for myself? Like I did always aspire to work for myself, but to do what? That was the big question. And then I went to college anyway. did a advertising and marketing communications in tele IT. But now my fourth choice was creative digital media. And I didn’t get that because I didn’t get like a.

 

Lucy Gernon (02:51.521)

So yeah.

 

Enya (03:18.4)

C1 and higher level English like you know it’s a language I’m fluent in so I’m a lot better at English now I wrote a book so obviously I redeemed myself I learned how to use a comma but I ended up going to college and it was the last two years of college it was a four-year degree now I finished it but it was the last few years that Facebook video started coming on the scene you know and

 

Lucy Gernon (03:22.5)

Good Thomas.

 

Lucy Gernon (03:28.645)

You have to learn the language.

 

Enya (03:46.528)

I’ve seen, you could probably count on one hand, even to people that were making videos on social media in this country, like it was just unheard of, you know, back at that stage.

 

Lucy Gernon (03:53.007)

When was that then, yeah? Like how long ago was that, would you say?

 

Enya (03:56.718)

That was around 2014, 2014. I posted my first video in probably early 2014 and I was posted on my personal page, my personal Facebook page. And I just, I was like, tied with the idea for ages. You know, I was walking in extravison at this stage. I remember extravison, like just, it was in college, just wanted to earn bit of a wage to go out on the weekends and stuff. And I said, I’m gonna go for it. Like I wanna kind of like show people that, you know.

 

I made my friends laugh a lot and I was quite wee and then I started thinking right let’s try to capitalise on this you know and I made the page Gizle laugh like the video’s got a great response to my personal page so I thought to myself right let’s start opening her up now and I to the rest of the country

 

Lucy Gernon (04:41.935)

How old are then? How old were you when you started this? About?

 

Enya (04:45.39)

I was about 20, 20, 40 and I was about 22, so…

 

Lucy Gernon (04:50.947)

Wow. like tell me, because I’m so curious to hear this because putting yourself out there on social media, like is a really big deal for lot of people. And obviously you probably didn’t know that, what you know now about it. You were doing it for, know, thinking it was something that would be something that you wanted to do. Did you get any backlash when you started from your friends and family and all? Like who does she think she is or was it all supportive?

 

Enya (05:12.384)

Yeah, I think at the start, especially when I was just uploading to my personal page, because I wanted to test the oars and it was still terrifying, even though it was just my friends and family seeing it, know, distant friends and family as well. But it was still terrifying. Like, I think some people thought it was a phase. Like, I think some people thought, yeah, she’s going to eventually like, she’ll get bored of doing them. But I did deal with a little bit of that, you know, like kind of, and I forget my wife.

 

my boyfriend’s mates, like they’re buzzers and stuff like that, but I think they were a bit like, like they were kind of slagging him about me, you know, and I think they taught it was a phase and I think they look at me now and how, like, I wouldn’t say I have financial freedom, but I can go into a restaurant and I have to look at the price of the menu and like, they’re the ones who are still open for other people now and you know, just.

 

Lucy Gernon (05:43.557)

Who?

 

Enya (06:03.828)

Yeah, I’m incredibly proud of myself for just not listening to those opinions and just, you know, I just kept going for like, I was very, very green back then, you know, I hadn’t got a clue. I didn’t know what way this is going to go. But what I, what I was sure of is I’m not going to give up. I know eventually there’s going to be something over the horizon. There’s going to be a big opportunity if I just keep going and not listen to the opinions of other people. Because I remember actually when I thought I was starting like the public page, someone had said to me, okay, don’t be getting ahead of yourself there now. And like that was someone that was

 

you know, one of my friends and that’s just a reflection of how they’d see the situation if they were in it, you know, and that’s, that’s like them talking to themselves. And I was like, I don’t care what people think of me. Like, I honestly don’t care. Like this is something I enjoy. This is something I actually feel that I’m good at. And I got better with time through repetition. Then eventually that was 2014. And then in 2016, 2017, I got contacted by a comedy club because a lot of people like would you ever do stand up and

 

What I was good at was, I was good at the punch lines in the videos because a lot of people would be commenting and they’d be laughing and they’d be like, when she says this or, you know, blah, blah, blah. And I’m like, I can probably write jokes. And then still would rather, you know, shake my hands and clap than stand on stage and try to make people laugh. Like, give me a script. That’s no problem. I’ll read a script. But you just feel very, very vulnerable when you’re, initially just close the laptop. Because back then I was using a laptop. I was using a DSLR camera that evens for photography.

 

Lucy Gernon (07:32.773)

RUH

 

Enya (07:33.134)

and I had to set it up on a tripod. I was filming back on Y because I was still a bit insecure on camera. I was in a landscape. It was back before phones could do everything. So what had happened then was I got roped into doing five minutes on stage and I was doing an internship at this stage while still working in extra vision. And when I had left my college course, because I was still under the illusion that I don’t think I’m to make money off it yet. So I was still

 

juggling part-time jobs with an internship. So if I did get a full-time job in the internship, out of the internship, I could leave extra vision. Like I wanted my fingers in a lot of pies just for backup, you know. So what happened was I’d done the five minutes of stand-up. I was absolutely terrified, but I remember standing side stage. It was in Weelands and they had a slot just for a four-stimer. So the crowd were a bit easier on you because they knew it was your fourth time. I remember just standing side stage and like,

 

It was weird, I just felt like this is what I’m supposed to be doing. Like I didn’t feel as nervous as I thought I was gonna feel. And as I know, like this feels natural, this feels good. And yeah, after that then, the rest is history. Like I eventually got better with time and they didn’t keep me on at the internship. So I had to make a decision then. Extravision ended up closing down, I went into liquidation and I said, I know where DVDs went today.

 

Lucy Gernon (08:52.581)

Bring them back. So sad.

 

Enya (08:57.058)

But like, it was literally like a DVD cemetery, wasn’t it? I didn’t get kept on any internship. And at that stage now, the videos were starting to go really viral. And I wasn’t just doing the Shando character, because I originally hid behind characters at the start. So people weren’t judging me, they were judging the characters. And I know I said I didn’t care what people thought of me, but I was still not myself. I was like playing a character, you know, because I wanted to still test awards. I didn’t want to be myself. Yeah, I felt more comfortable being a character.

 

Lucy Gernon (09:00.143)

Yeah.

 

Lucy Gernon (09:13.562)

Yeah.

 

Enya (09:26.446)

people responded well to that. I started doing a Mammy character then. I started doing, you know, if Mean Girls was set in Dublin, if the Titanic was set in Dublin, was like dubbed over videos with Dublin accents and stuff like They did really well. And was around the time with the Mean Girls when it was made, that went really viral. And I just thought to myself, I’m wasted sitting at this desk, this internship. was before I was let go, you know, and I was just doing spreadsheets and Excel and stuff. you know, although it was something I was interested in,

 

I still felt like I have this whole other thing going on in the background that I actually really enjoy and I’m really passionate about. And I’m sitting here and I feel wasted, know, I feel trapped at this desk. So I thought it was a sign that they didn’t keep me on. And I was like, I’m not going to look for another job. At that stage, I was put in touch with an agency who basically that’s when kind of like collaborations that are coming onto the scene. So like, you know, Coca-Cola would give you X amount of money to make a video for them and put it on your page and stuff. And

 

I remember I’d gone with an agency and I got my first paid job. I was in the internship at this stage. I was like, right, I might want to get one every three or four months, but you’re already used to surviving on a hundred quid a week. Like, can’t get any worse than this.

 

Lucy Gernon (10:35.545)

Yeah, we used to live in a home at the stage.

 

Enya (10:38.432)

Yeah, yeah, still living at home and I was very lucky I had that, you know, and again, I wasn’t used to having a lot of money, so a hundred quid, I was able to stretch that because it’s all I knew, you know, so I left and then I was going to go onto the doll and they were like, well, you’re still making money through, you know, these video collaborations or whatever you call it. They can’t go on the doll. And they were like, but we do have this other thing set up by Enterprise Ireland where…

 

for self-employed people, we give you a supplement every week and you know after starting around the month, know, 25 % has knocked off and you know until eventually it’s only 50 % of it but it kept me going and it kept me afloat and eventually then the page started growing, you know, I started getting more video work and then that’s when I started doing stand-up and I done my five minutes and my manager slipped into my DMs and said how would you feel about doing a little tour around Dublin?

 

and you know going to all the different theatres I’d never wrote a show in my life and I didn’t even know how to go about it so I just wrote sketches because that’s all I knew how to do at that time and then I started testing the waters like doing 10 minutes at the start of those shows and then jumping into the sketches then eventually it would become 20 minutes then half an hour and now I’m on my solo stand-up tour I think it is yeah

 

Lucy Gernon (11:55.716)

Wow. So, I mean, honestly, this is like I’m just my God, like it’s so incredible. You’re only in your 20s, right? I’m not just saying that that is incredible for any 20 year old to get up and go and stand up and, you know, do comedy and put yourself out there on social media. I’m so curious where you where did that confidence come from? Because it is unusual for someone at that age to be that, you know.

 

Enya (12:20.11)

I always felt like I said, I was very introverted in school, but Arna Báibhona in second class, was the first experience I had talking, like standing up in front of an audience. We were doing the play Puss in Boots and a girl, she was actually an African student and she was doing the narrator for the play, but she had to go back to Africa to visit her family at Christmas. So I was playing like.

 

a cow or something, know, like a non-speaking role. And she had to go back to Africa. So my teacher was like, OK, who are we going to give the narrator job to? And I don’t know what she saw in me, but I think I auditioned for it. And I don’t know what she saw in me, but she was like, Eine, you get up and read the script and let’s see how you get on. Like this was in the rehearsals. And I got that role. So that was the first time I stood in front of And I actually felt so comfortable doing it. Like I actually really enjoyed it. And it was always there, like.

 

Ask me to go over and make small talk about a group of people I don’t know, petrifying. Give me a script and go up and talk in front of people. Like I’ll never stand there and think they’re judging me, they’re thinking this, I think it’s something that just feels so natural to me. Something I felt good at. You know the way when people, the way some people are just like really, really good at maths, it just naturally comes to them. Or, you know, like when you see people with kids, like you know, or nurses, or people who are just naturally drawn towards those roles, they’re just really, really good with people.

 

Lucy Gernon (13:21.455)

Yeah, yeah.

 

Lucy Gernon (13:31.269)

Yeah.

 

Enya (13:48.046)

That was like me, that was like my calling and again it was just something I enjoyed. I never thought I’d be able to make an income out of it but I loved doing it and it was something I just felt like it was a skill that I had that I was born or it was something I was meant to do and it was just until I was put the right environment or I was handed something like until the right opportunity came along and that was social media because

 

Lucy Gernon (14:04.676)

Yeah.

 

Enya (14:15.136)

I remember hearing that saying like, you know, if you’re waiting for someone to knock on your door, you’ll be waiting a long time. So, you know, knock on your own door. And that’s why I started to give a laugh page because I was like, I’m going to put myself out there. I’m not going to be sending in tapes to RTE, you know, in a pile of a hundred tapes. mine’s probably never going to even be seen. And this is how I’m going to attract attention. And, you know, it took, it took a while for it to get kind of good opportunities. I never stopped. And don’t get me wrong. I was petrified when I posted my first public video.

 

because I was afraid of backlash and you know you’ve dreamed of something for so long and you’ve got your hopes up for something that like people are gonna love this and then imagine if they didn’t but thankfully it was met with like 80 to 90 percent positivity you know.

 

Lucy Gernon (14:58.273)

Amazing and it’s continued ever since. I’m so curious to know then, right? Obviously, you’re super successful now. You’re going on tour again. You have a new tour coming out as well, don’t you? Around the time this episode is out, actually, think. Yeah. Do want to share about your tour?

 

Enya (15:13.044)

So it’s officially launching on the 6th of March in Vicar Street, but I’ll be doing warm up shows January and February. And yeah, we’re going all around Ireland again. I actually went to Australia last year and did Sydney, the Sydney Comedy Festival, and I’m going back there again this year. I don’t know what dates this will be released, but I think it might be announced by then, I’m not too sure. But I’ll…

 

Lucy Gernon (15:31.266)

God help you, little boy.

 

Enya (15:39.862)

I’ll be doing Sydney and I’ll be doing other cities. I only did Sydney last year but I’ll be coming to other cities that are very heavily populated with Irish. So yeah, that’s, you know…

 

Lucy Gernon (15:49.103)

bringing the joy and your mom, your mom must be so proud, is she? We see her on your Instagram and that.

 

Enya (15:55.744)

She’s so proud but she’s at a stage now where I think she’s starting, not getting used to it but I love when I bring her to my shows and how people react to her and she loves it too. She grew up with loads of siblings and it’s hard to get a look in when you’re from a big family so she wouldn’t have gotten a whole lot of attention back then in the 60s, 70s.

 

you know, your parents could do what they want to you. There was no backlash or anything. There was no such thing as child line or toslate. So she got a few hidings and she… Parents in this day and age, they mollycoddle their kids because they’re not seen as nuisances. I’ve learned a lot from even my upbringing how I treat my kids. But when I see her, I love when she gets that attention from my fans. Because I know when she was growing up she never got that from her parents.

 

Lucy Gernon (16:48.511)

Yeah, that is so lovely to share that with your ma’sal. So, so nice. And I’m wondering as well, like you said that, you know, everything has been met like 80 to 90 percent. It was all good at the start. Surely you’ve had some flops like what’s the worst gig or the worst experience you’ve ever had where you literally wanted to crawl into a hole and just die or have you?

 

Enya (17:10.21)

Well, what I will say is any of my own shows where people actually pay to just come see me, I’ve never had a bad show. now sometimes you might get a drunk in an audience or, you know, you can get people that are a bit rowdy, but they’re coming to see you because, and that was the great thing about the page, I had built my audience already through the social media page, Gizle asks, and people are coming to see me because they already enjoyed that sense of humour, but…

 

When you’re staring out in the clubs, you’re trying to build an audience and it happens way slower, you know? And it takes a lot of grafts. like sometimes I think comedians that took the traditional route from stage and then moved on to screen were probably a little bit, I don’t know, envious of how like you bypassed all that basically, but this is the way the world has gone now, you know?

 

Lucy Gernon (17:58.15)

Yeah, you were smart. You leveraged what was there rather than like taking such a long time to get there, right?

 

Enya (18:04.3)

Yeah and then it was great but I often do like charity gigs or I’m on lineups you know at comedy festivals and there’s a lot of people in the audience who may not have heard of you or have and they just haven’t been to see you yet or they might not be familiar with your page like there was probably two gigs where I was like my god but you don’t you don’t take it seriously because the stuff that you’re saying on that stage is tried and tested you know you’ve done it numerous times it gets huge laughs so when you stand above

 

front of an audience and they’re not familiar with you and you’re just met with silence when you do those punch lines. It is a bit off-hunting but at the same time you don’t take it personally. like, no, these have something against me or like there was two gigs. There was one I did, it was a charity gig. It was actually in Ballymun and I always do well with my own shows in Ballymun and it’s probably like my target audience out there, know, working class area. I was doing a charity show and I was on a line up and everyone was going down really well and I went too.

 

and every punchline was just met with crickets. was like, did these just all collectively agree before I came out? Let’s just make all feel like shit. So that was probably one of the worst ones. And then there was another one which was actually last summer. I was down in Mayo and it was a lineup. it was basically a lineup to launch a comedy festival that was happening a couple of weeks later. So was like the opening gala. And it was just a whole Mayo crowd, right? So a lot of rural folk.

 

you know, probably don’t watch me online and you know, just farm and stuff like that. That’s their hobby. They didn’t get it whatsoever and it was really uncomfortable. But I think like, yeah, those two gigs were not humbling, but it’s like, right, you’re not going to be everyone’s cup of tea, you know.

 

Lucy Gernon (19:38.021)

Yeah, it didn’t get it.

 

Lucy Gernon (19:51.43)

Like I think that’s the thing. You have to find your people, don’t you? Like you can’t be liked by everyone. And like you said, like your material is tried and tested. So I think that’s a really good lesson even for people to take away is that like I hear I work a lot with women in leadership and entrepreneurship and confidence can be a huge thing. And they feel like sometimes imposter syndrome and like they’re not the expert or if they say something, they get asked a question and they don’t know the answer. They take it maybe that they’re not the expert. But really, I think what we can learn from that is like it’s really just about the audience. Right. And not everybody is.

 

for you and it doesn’t mean anything about you. It’s always about them. It’s always them. their f-

 

Enya (20:25.366)

Yeah, like, and the environment is a big one. Like I’ve often done music festivals where there’s a comedy tent and it’s just shockingly set up. Like it’s not designed for comedy. Like there’s a band playing like 10 feet away from you. Like you can’t build momentum or like build up a story with a huge punchline in an environment like that. And it’s, sometimes you’re torn up to these things and you’re just like, right, it is what it is.

 

But I’m in a position now where I can fortunately turn down those gigs and I’m like, I’ve put in, I’ve paid my dues. I don’t need to do these anymore. And then there is some music festivals that do cater to the artists and they do put, you know, there is a good environment. Like Electro Picnic is very well put together for the Comedy Tent. And there was another one. I think it was the Independence Festival. This has gone back a few years ago, before COVID even. It was like a barn down in the Independence Festival in Cork. And it was like the corner of a barn and like,

 

people were sitting on a concrete, okay? And these are students, half of them are probably out ahead, and you were walking up there, and you’ve only about a year or two experience under your belt, so you only have a small set, 20 minutes. This is the only gig I ever cried after. was, I was like, people were getting up and walking out, but it wasn’t even that they were saying, she’s crap or what the hell. It just wasn’t designed for comedy. It’s like people were walking in there expecting this.

 

live at the Apollo-esque type stage or whatever and it’s just… everything was designed to just make sure you had a shit gig so things like that now I can fortunately afford to to to torn down but you were saying like there about confidence like a lot of people will come to me uh you know friends like I’m best man at a wedding and stuff and I’m absolutely shitting about the speech I can’t wait for the day I get married like that’s just like all right the day that I’m a maid of honor like I will like

 

Lucy Gernon (21:50.341)

I’m going to…

 

Enya (22:14.548)

I’ll just bask in that role. I couldn’t wait. I’d be dying to do a speech at you know? But what I would say is a lot of people think they all want me to fail. They’re just imagining the worst. They’re gonna laugh at me. They’re gonna think this. I think it would say more about you as a person if you were sitting there thinking, hope they make a bollocks of this. Like, I can’t wait for this to trip up. Like, I can’t wait for this to be shit. Like, nobody thinks like that. When I go to a wedding, most of time I’m thinking to myself,

 

I’m not expecting, you know, a Kevin Bridges type of speech. Like sometimes you’re pleasantly surprised. Like you want the person to do well. Like you want them to make people laugh. Like you’re, you’re commending them for standing up there and speaking when that’s not something that they would normally do, you know, and they’re not expecting like this. Yeah. This, this big comedy show. and I think that’s one of the main things I focus on. And that’s why I am doing what I, what I’m doing. People want you to do well.

 

you know, that they’re not hinging unless they really dislike you as a person, like, I don’t know.

 

Lucy Gernon (23:14.437)

I think as well, though, think a big mistake a lot of best advice I ever got about public speaking on the stage. And it doesn’t sound like it’s something you struggle with because you said you don’t really care what people think. But really, you did a little bit at the start because you hit behind your characters. But in general, you’re well able to put yourself out there. Whereas I would not have been like that. I cared so much about what people thought that I like changed who I was as a person. I actually had a twitch like I’d have a twitch if I had to talk. It was like it was like horrendous.

 

But the best advice I got, remember, when I started my business about five years ago, when I started to kind of have to put myself out there was if you’re making it all about your audience and you’re thinking about your audience and you like you want to make them laugh or you want to add value to them and you take yourself out of it. Well, then it becomes irrelevant because most people are thinking, oh, my God, what if they think this about me and what to do that to me when really if you make it about the audience? And I always think about like one person I’m speaking to, even if there’s hundreds in a room. I think for me, that really, really helps. What do you think?

 

Enya (24:10.262)

Yeah, I totally agree and another tip I try and do is fake it till you make it. That’s one tip I give people as well. You try to come across as the most confident person in room. When I stand up there, I want people to envy how confident I am. I’d never be able to do what she does. I get asked that all the time. How do you do what I’d never be able to do?

 

But I honestly, like when I walk out on stage, it’s like an alter ego. Like I am, I’m a very introverted person and sometimes people run into me and they’re like, I actually really quiet person. And I’m like, yeah, if I was to carry on like that 24 seven, like I’d be in a psychiatric unit. Like that is just mentally exhausting. Like, and I find it hard to sleep after gigs because your adrenaline is so high, you know, I think faking the confidence.

 

Lucy Gernon (24:46.617)

Yeah, not well. Yeah.

 

Enya (24:59.054)

does massively help. Like I stand backstage and I’m pacing back and forth and I think I have to the deep breaths and stuff like that. And when you walk out and the lights are on you and the audience are looking at you, it’s like, okay, it’s any of you two now. I’m any one behind stage, it’s any of you two now. it’s just, yeah, it’s like, just imagine you’re stepping into someone else’s shoes. Honestly, it’s, and I think like a lot of people say to like imagine the audience in their underwear, like.

 

Lucy Gernon (25:14.053)

your time.

 

Enya (25:27.798)

I don’t think I’ve ever had to use that but people who are going off, it’s like being in a driving test, know, when you’re sitting in the front of a car and you are trying to be like super alert, like you’re watching everything and to the point where you almost make mistakes because you’re just being too alert. When you’re gone on stage and you’re trying to remember your speech and you’re trying to not worry about what the audience think like…

 

Lucy Gernon (25:44.197)

100%.

 

Enya (25:52.366)

Sometimes you can trip yourself up, it’s because you’re focusing on too much. Like just be yourself, you know, just be yourself and just believe in yourself. And if you think about it, like in the grand scheme of things, I used to think five minutes of comedy felt like a lifetime. Like I remember doing my first five minutes, how the hell am going to do five minutes? And now I’m doing an hour and it’s funny because, you know, before my shows I’m like, it’s only an hour. Like, and it is, it’s an hour out of your day. And if you’re getting up and you’re doing a web speech, you’re doing a presentation,

 

It’s like 20 minutes of your day. Like that’s all it is and how quickly 20 minutes flies by, especially when you’re up there and you’re in the zone and you’re focusing on it. Everything outside doesn’t matter anymore, you know?

 

Lucy Gernon (26:32.485)

100 percent. I think, you know, I think you made a really good point there about fake and confidence. I hate when people are. I actually hate, you know, I hear people say you don’t fake it till you make it like, try this instead. Like, I think you have to fake it because you don’t become that person unless you actually model that person. And I remember I was I was told before to like borrow confidence from someone else. So, you know, if you really like somebody like, isn’t it like so like look at someone say Enya, for example, like.

 

Enya (26:48.814)

Bye!

 

Enya (26:53.806)

That’s a good one.

 

Lucy Gernon (26:58.349)

How would any show up in this situation? Or maybe I can just borrow a bit of her. And then eventually, when you do it enough times that you’re like, right, you really like this person at work, you might kind of model them a little bit. It’s like your your characters back in the early days and you’re in your one year and you two. It just gives you that little tiny bit of protection. But eventually then you you find your own way, don’t you? Like you find then yourself within the whole thing.

 

Enya (27:22.742)

Yeah, like if I was to stand up on stage and talk about something I’ve no experience in, like for example my partner is a chef, if I was sent up onto the stage and was told to like talk in depth about like a recipe or something like that, I’d crumble. Like you know, I’d be like, I don’t know what to say and you know, and faking it till you make it is obviously, if it’s something that you’re passionate about, you’re going to be getting up and speaking and doing a presentation, it’s something that you’ve done a lot of research on, you know.

 

But I think that… Sorry, what was the question again, Lucy? Yeah, it was…

 

Lucy Gernon (27:57.382)

I don’t know. I’ve had HD babes. I have no idea. They’re all clear what I asked you. What can I ask you? We’re talking about confidence, fake. Oh yeah, was asking you, yeah, fake it till you make up, borrow confidence. And then you start talking about the chef situation. error.

 

Enya (28:13.09)

Yeah, so like I can totally get that like if you’re just thrown up at the last minute to talk about something you know nothing about I’d crumble, you know, but What I will say is when you are talking to do when I saw my figure till you make it so I’m also a personal trainer, right? And it’s something that I’ve had a lot of interested in it’s actually really passionate about and I have a separate page like coach any and I love like educating women and people and you know men as well

 

general about how to you know get yourself in shape and stuff like that but it’s all about like habits and stuff and figure to make it apply to this as well because in order for you to get to a point where you’ve toned arms you know you go to the gym for a living you enjoy it and you eat well 80 % of the time when you start doing that you have to literally you know embody the person that you want to be because that’s how they get there you have to literally you know

 

practice those habits because that’s how you get there. If you just constantly wake up every day and think I don’t want to go to the gym today, I don’t want to eat well, you’re never going to get to that destination. So you have to live like someone who was already there, you know, and

 

Lucy Gernon (29:18.917)

I love that. I love that. I remember being told that before something similar around and I still do myself with loads of things is like making decisions from that. if what would a healthy person do this? What would a healthy person do if you want to be healthy? I’m going to the gym now consistently for a year, which is the longest time I have ever been like actually disciplined because I made a decision. was like, right. First of all, I’m usually all or nothing. So I’m like five days a week like

 

Enya (29:34.414)

Mmm.

 

Lucy Gernon (29:47.13)

You know, Weight Watchers starved myself or I’m more than take race three nights a week and I’m not doing anything right. And it’s not sustainable. And then I remember I was I think I can’t remember who said it to me. I can’t remember where I heard it, but someone said it and they were like, you know, exactly what you just said around making decisions from your future self. I always say like your future self is calling you like if you want to be fit, it’s because you actually want to be fit. And you do have to start making decisions from who you want to be in the future and not who you are now, because it’s not just going to happen, is it?

 

like it’s not gonna happen in all eating.

 

Enya (30:19.274)

Yeah, and you know, I deal with clients all the time who say I wasn’t motivated this week so I didn’t really go to the gym and I’m like, major disclaimer here, you’re going to get in the best shape of your life and you’re still going to feel like you don’t want go to the gym some days. You’re still going to feel like, just want to order takeaway, I’m not in the humor of cooking. You’re still going to feel like that even when you get into the best shape of your life. That’s never going to go away, but the people who actually do succeed do the work regardless of how they feel, you know?

 

That’s saying as well, like what would the best version of myself do in this situation? And I love that saying because visualization is huge as well. I visualize myself performing Vicar Street for the first time. I visualize myself eventually making a good income from coaching. I visualize myself, you know, supporting this comedian, you know, doing this show, doing that show. But it’s not going to be handed to you. You have to put yourself out there. You have to fail a couple of times. But failure is only when you completely give up.

 

you know, and I kept going like…

 

Lucy Gernon (31:20.429)

Yeah, it’s funny, like when you’re saying about the visualization, like it’s something that is like I’ve studied a lot of entrepreneurs and a lot of business people, and I’ve been fortunate to have some fantastic business mentors and coaches as well from the US, UK and all of that. And I’ve studied them all and they all have that in common. It’s all like I do it myself. Visualization, manifestation techniques, taking care of your health, taking care of your body, actually allowing yourself to experience joy and happiness, because that’s where all the good stuff comes like.

 

But yet so many people are stuck in their heads, stuck wanting to be a better version of themselves. And then like I was that person. I was like pity party. I was victim mode for so many years, like just stuck until I realized that I actually had the power to change everything. And thank God it did. But it took time. So what would you say to people who maybe are listening, who, you know, I hear it all the time as well as a coach. I work with women leaders around, know, I want, you know, I want more time for exercise. I want to go to the gym or

 

I want confidence to speak on the stage. They want these things and everyone’s desires are their desires. You want it for a fucking reason. It’s because you’re meant to do this thing. How can people break through that barrier do you think?

 

Enya (32:31.918)

Well I used to think like that as well, I want to do this, I want to do that. Okay well what are you willing to get there and also the system that you set up to get there is incredibly important because we’ll just use a client who wants to lose weight for example, they have three kids, a full-time job and they’re a single parent and I want to do an hour cardio a day. Okay you won’t physically have the time to do that, you just want to get to this destination as quick as possible okay and that ain’t gonna happen, we have to be realistic here, what can you sustain?

 

So let’s set up a good system that you can stick to, okay? It might be a slow way, but you’re gonna get there in the end and you’re gonna be able to sustain it and that’s what you’re gonna be able to stick to. So I think, a lot, like I deal with so many clients as well that just have really low self-esteem and they make one hiccup and they think that’s it, I’ve blown it. And how I succeeded was, anytime I used to fall down, I used to give up as well, if I over-eat or something like that.

 

But what I would do is, I’m just going to get back up and I’m going to continue as normal until eventually, you know, it matters what you do most of the time. And most of the time, you are going to be, you know, eating well most of the time. You’re going to be exercising in the grand scheme of things. Like you probably F up very few times and it’s not as dramatic as you make it out to be. But I think a lot of women, and this was a huge thing for me as well, is they don’t realize the power of self-talk. Like they’re well able to say, I’m not going to be able to do this. I’m not going to be able to do that. But you can also flip the script and be like, no, I will do this.

 

And I’m actually going to get there. like, you know, look how well I’m doing today. I have three kids and a single period of full time job and I made prep last night and now I’m able to stay on track today. And it’s not beating themselves up. And sometimes you as a coach, you’re their only cheerleader in their life. Like their friends don’t give a shit. Their friends are trying to twist their arrow every weekend to go out and drink. Their parent might not be that supportive either. Like, back on your diet again and wonder how long you’re going to last. Like that’s not going to help either.

 

Lucy Gernon (34:12.793)

Yeah.

 

Enya (34:23.81)

You know, they’re already criticizing themselves and then they have people around them doing it too. So having strong inner dialogue. And I don’t think people have, like, I know I’m repeating myself here, but they’re well able to talk negatively about themselves, but they don’t realize you can also talk positively about yourself as well. Just believe in yourself. Honestly, like I can do this. I might be able to, no, I can and I will.

 

Lucy Gernon (34:46.083)

Yeah, I’m I’m huge into mindset as well. It’s one of the things that I like I coach women on all the time. And I have a technique I call the rants to power technique that might be useful for anyone that’s landed with this. I was that person beat myself up for years. I hated myself. I hate how I looked. I hate how I sounded. I all those things. And I like I used to listen to people like you and I and I be going, yeah, it’s easy for them. Just believe in yourself. But I don’t believe in myself or I don’t I don’t feel good enough.

 

But this is a tool that I developed. went for so much therapy. was like, I need to create my own my own stuff that’s actually going to work better. So I kind of merged neuroscience, positive psychology and therapy into this little tool I call RANTS to power. And RANTS stands for Repetitive Automatic Negative Thoughts, which are what you’re talking about. I’m not whatever enough. And we all have that. And then you flip it to what I call a power statement, which is positive, optimistic words, energetically repeated.

 

And that’s your affirmation, right? So it’s, literally, I’m fat, I’m ugly because I am healthy and I take care of my body. And you basically write a list of all your runs. You get, kind of become an observer of your thoughts, write them all down on one side of the page. On the other side, then you force yourself to flip it to something positive. You can use chat GPT if you can’t think about it. Like there’s always ways to flip things. And then what you do to actually rewire the mind is it’s fucking work.

 

Sorry about my language, but it’s work, which is why most people don’t do it. They don’t do it because it takes work. You have to repeat those statements every single day until you actually believe them. And it’s been proven in neuroscience, within our plasticity and our brains, that you can rewire it. But it’s it’s like grooves in a forest. Like if you keep beating that negative path, you’re just going to ingrain those beliefs more and more. So, you know, nobody’s coming to rescue you.

 

Enya (36:11.662)

You

 

Lucy Gernon (36:35.853)

You have to put in the work and you have to do it for yourself and you have to do it for whoever those people are around you.

 

Enya (36:42.55)

You know our brains are wired to go at what’s easy like it’s trying to protect us so all of a sudden when you’re doing something that’s unfamiliar brain is like no we don’t like this nah nah let’s just go back to what we were doing before that’s easy yeah lying lying on the couch you know ordering a takeaway instead of cooking the food the food they are to spend a fortune on you know up in Tesco to start getting on track and now just order takeaway like that’s easy to do but

 

Lucy Gernon (36:52.191)

Even if it’s bad for you. Yeah, even if it’s bad, right?

 

Enya (37:07.694)

What’s having doesn’t come easy, you know, and people don’t want to put the walk in. That’s why they’re always like, on a fast track, taking shortcuts. And you know, it never lasted the long term. And I remember when I was doing my fitness photoshoot going back last year and I was doing a lot of cardio because, and you know, I was, to be really, really strict with my field because that’s what I talk and I signed up for that. you know, no matter how many times I complained, I signed up for this book. There was plenty of times where I was putting a situation.

 

where I could have just helped myself to a lot of finger food at a party and I could have just skipped cardio sessions. But the one thing, the one mantra I had in my mind is I don’t want to show up to the studio on the day of this photo shoot and look at myself in the mirror and be like, I wonder how I would have looked if I didn’t over-endured with that finger food, if I didn’t skip that cardio session. I hate having regrets. I wonder what would have happened if I had posted that video. You know, like where would I be now if I had a…

 

made that give a laugh page. Like I hate regrets. it’s having that, like you want to be proud of yourself. And when I stood in that studio on that day of my fitness photo shoot, I looked in the mirror and like, you left no stone left unturned. Like you put your all into this, you know? Like you’ve honored the promises that you made to yourself because you just build so much more. You just build a whole lot more self-confidence when you actually see something true. You know, like how many more times are you going to let yourself down?

 

Lucy Gernon (38:31.173)

Yeah, yeah, definitely. Oh my God, I love that. And I actually remember I remember seeing you in that photo shoot. looked amazing, actually. So I just want to change tack a little bit, right? I want to talk a little bit about the pressure that comes with fame. Like, you consider yourself famous? Like, would you say I’m famous? Do you ever do you say that like, or is that something that people say? I don’t know.

 

Enya (38:37.911)

Heh.

 

Enya (38:50.574)

I still feel like, yeah, I feel like I have a bit of a profile, but I still feel like I could go to Mayo and walk around and no one would know who I was. I think in Dublin, I’m a lot more recognised in Dublin, and then if you go somewhere where lot of dubs would go on holidays, like Lanzarote or something like that. But I still think I haven’t reached a stage where I’m a household name in Ireland, which is a goal. And it’s not for fame, but it means it’s gonna add longevity to my career, you know?

 

Lucy Gernon (38:59.364)

Yeah.

 

Lucy Gernon (39:16.292)

It’s your.

 

Yeah. And you’re determined as well, aren’t you? That’s one thing I can really see is coming through in spades about you. You’re like, if you set your mind to something, I think people better watch out. And I feel like, I feel like you’re only going to go. I can’t wait to keep following you. But I’m wondering as well, like, you know, obviously as a comedian, like you do have your any two persona. Right. And we all have that. How do you like say if you’re having a bad day, if you have your period or something or something really shitty has happened, like how do you stay? How can you still show up and be funny or is that hard for you?

 

Enya (39:22.561)

Yeah.

 

Enya (39:49.558)

Yeah, like don’t be fooled that like, you know, I do have like this bulletproof mindset and stuff. Like I do have days where I am human and I am hurting myself and you should be doing more. And like, I’m sure probably people look at me and think, where does she find the time to do it all? Like some days I still think I’m not doing enough. Like I need to be posting more. I need to be taking on more clients. I need to be, you know, have my face on TV or in radio more to sell more tickets. Like there’s some days where…

 

I feel like the world’s caving in on me and then I have other days where on top of the world. There is a lot of ups and downs and you try to enjoy the ups as much as possible because just as quickly the next day, we’re not selling tickets for this show, we need to keep pushing it. You can just be humbled very quickly and there is a lot of, and don’t get me wrong, I might be very confident on stage, but my biggest fear is that I hope people let that show feeling like it was worth the money, it was worth getting the babysitter.

 

and it was worth a taxi fare into town and I’ve come here again. Like that’s all I want people to feel is that they enjoyed it, you know, and that they’ll come back and see me again. But you also have that inner crick. That wasn’t your best walk tonight. You know, remember that joke that usually gets a laugh? They didn’t laugh that loud tonight. Like it’s that it can be like a devil on a shoulder, you know, and it’s that kind of, so imagine I guess you’re in opportunities. It’s like that imposter syndrome.

 

Or even when people, when I set out a show, like who’s coming to see me? Like, why would, when someone asks me for a picture out on a pole, like I’m like, you want the picture with me? Like sometimes it’s hard to believe. Like you don’t feel worthy enough for, know, sometimes you might be living on another planet and you actually are more now than you think you are, you know?

 

Lucy Gernon (41:33.454)

I think it’s like, you know, we’re all human at the end of the day. And that’s, know, I think sometimes people think because it’s people are in the public eye. They first of all have all the shit together. It’s perfect all the time. Like you see, you know, on social media, they know exactly what they’re doing. But I think anyone I’ve ever met that’s famous after just normal people like just normal with struggles and challenges like everyone else. But I think what’s different is, you know, I love what you’re saying is that.

 

You’re putting yourself out there and you’ve done that since you were in your 20s. And I think that is, you know, I remember someone saying to me when I started my business as well as it’s always the people was a brilliant, Brene Brown. So she didn’t say to me because I don’t know her, but I read a book and she was talking about, is it that Theodore Roosevelt speech, which is about it’s only people who are not in the arena that will ever kind of cast stones at you.

 

Because anyone who has ever been in that arena and knows what it’s like to actually step out there, vulnerable, raw, do like put yourself out there, you’re never going to get that from somebody. So those people do not pay your bills. Those people are not, are not there for that, right?

 

Enya (42:41.992)

always there’s two quotes so one of them was you’re never gonna get criticized by someone who’s doing better than you and then another one was don’t take don’t take criticism for a person you’d never go to for advice you know so I I obviously probably now in fairness I am lucky that I don’t get a lot of backlash like even I post videos like I’m not heavily trolled and

 

most of the people who are trolls, they’re middle-aged men who aren’t attractive and probably still live in their man’s box bedroom. you know, and they’re just incredibly insecure when they see a woman. Like, they still think it’s a man’s world and they see a female coming up in the ranks making a name for herself, you know, building her own career, making a bit of money. And that intimidates them to the point where they feel incredibly insecure that they have to leave a comment.

 

Lucy Gernon (43:12.25)

Yeah.

 

Enya (43:32.302)

funny hat she was performing in my garden, I close the curtain door, you call this comedy and stuff like I don’t take it to heart. I’m like, God love you. Like I actually feel sorry for them. I’m like, how miserable would you have to be to take time out your day to actually type that out and think, yeah, that’s okay to send to someone like that. I am at a stage now where I just laugh and I just block them. Like I don’t even engage because you know what happens sometimes when you do engage with them, they do it for a rise or else they do it for attention and next of all the table spins.

 

no, like I actually do think it every funny so I’m just having a really bad day like they just they try to beat you if you know what I mean like rage beat you and I’ve learned just to not engage just block them and that’s it.

 

Lucy Gernon (44:14.201)

What’s the weirdest comment or DM that you’ve ever got? Have you ever got any inappropriate photographs?

 

Enya (44:22.286)

No, I haven’t gotten any inappropriate photographs. But you know, something actually bizarre happened. I had a show in the Ambassador Theatre just there a few days ago, last weekend. And my manager had to drive me home because I got a taxi in and I was climbing getting a taxi home. There was someone outside who was demanding to meet me and they hadn’t got a ticket. It was a man, like with a hood.

 

Lucy Gernon (44:24.133)

You’re not there yet, you dickpicks.

 

Enya (44:45.282)

And it was really strange. were like, no, I want to meet you and stuff. So my manager was like, yeah, you’re not going out there. So I was like, my God, I have my full stock. I’ve made it now.

 

Lucy Gernon (44:53.258)

my god, you’re Kardashian vibes now, aren’t you?

 

Enya (45:00.306)

But, you know what, like I said, 90 % of the trolls are men, but sometimes when you get it from women, it actually hurts a bit more because you’re like, really, like, you know, I think influencers get a lot of flak from, like I consider myself just a comedian or a content creator, you know, I don’t try and sell people things, or I don’t get brought to like massive events and stuff like that, and I find they get a lot of trolling from women.

 

because that’s their demographic. Now I know my demographic is women, but it’s women who want to have a bit of crack. Like I get away with saying a whole lot more than an influencer would. They have to be proper PC and I can kind of play on the total line a bit and obviously not say anything discriminating, but people follow me because of my sense humor and I can have a bit of crack and the people who follow me know how to have a bit of crack, but sometimes you see people following influencers and they are very like…

 

Lucy Gernon (45:55.302)

Yeah, it’s terrible, isn’t it? think it’s it’s terrible. With humour, can kind of get away with a lot more. And I’d love to know as well, like, I am the worst at telling jokes, right? I’m so bad. I remember being, I remember being on holidays in Marbella with the girls, with two of my friends who were really, really funny. You know, they’re probably like you, I’d imagine, with your friends, but maybe you’re not like this. They’re always up for the crack. They’re always telling stories and they’re the life and soul and they carry the group, right?

 

Enya (45:55.662)

middle of the line that yeah, yeah.

 

Lucy Gernon (46:24.965)

And we were in Marbella and I remember the girls had been myself and my friend who were a little bit kind of more reserved or whatever. We were sitting there and then they were like, have you got any stories, girls? And the two of us just literally went like this. Like we were just so put on the spot. have no, what’s your advice for people like me who are just like, like if someone said to me, tell a joke, I have none. Zero.

 

Enya (46:49.74)

Like there’s people I cross paths with where I’m like, you’re wasted not being on stage. Like, you know, they don’t realise how funny they are without even trying. And now there is a skill writing jokes. Like, I think some people are gifted in the sense that they could walk up with a mic and just start taking the piss out people. Like you don’t have to write jokes for that, you know, you’re just riffing. Like that’s what they would call an MC.

 

Lucy Gernon (47:10.681)

Yeah.

 

Enya (47:14.606)

But often sometimes I sit down and chat to people, whether it’s a friend of a friend and an I.O. or something like that or whatever else, and they’re telling me a story and they tell it so well. like, I actually want to rob that first stage because that’s a hilarious story, you know? And they just have a certain way with words. But I think it’s just something that comes naturally to you. Like if you were to tell a funny story to a comedian.

 

And what my skill would be is I could alter it and change the wording around to make it sound funnier. I’d be like, okay, let’s exaggerate the story and let’s make it relatable. Like when I’m talking about my boyfriend on stage, everyone has been in a relationship, so that’s relatable. So if you’re trying to make people laugh, it has to be relatable. Like if you’re talking about a private joke between you and your friends, nobody else in the audience is gonna be able to relate to that. But if you’re like, we all have a friend who does this.

 

We all have a friend who’s tight with our money. So then you go into the story then about your friend being tight with money, you know, so has to be relatable.

 

Lucy Gernon (48:15.119)

start off with your ability. I love that. That’s a really good tip. Really good tip for anyone that’s there. So just before we finish up any, this has been I love getting to see this other side to I’m seeing a lot. You know, obviously we only ever see your your character, well, your your character, I suppose, on stage and on social media. And I’ve been really surprised by how you’re so smart or so humble. And I think I love the ambition. I can feel it. And I’m excited to see where you go with it. But what do you think?

 

most surprises people when they meet you? Like what’s the most surprising part of your personality do you think?

 

Enya (48:49.166)

Like I, I’m so boring. when you look at me on my page or on stage, you probably think, oh, I’d say she’s gas cracked to go out, I’d say she’s Like I save all that energy for stage. Like when I come off stage, like I said, you’re gonna all like, I am that. Now, don’t get me wrong. If I’m in an environment where I know you well and we’re very comfortable and we just start having to crack, I can be one of the funniest person in the room. you know, but I do have to be very comfortable around you for me to come out my shell and.

 

If I don’t know you and I don’t know what way to take you and you know I’m still trying to kind of test the waters with you like sometimes when you’re in a room like a party or something like that like a friend’s function and you know you’re surrounded by all their work friends who you don’t know like you’re kind of like trying to scope them out and you know like like all up there’s gives a laugh and on you’re really quiet because you don’t know them and you’re like they’re gonna get this impression of me that like I’m just not funny like you know and

 

Lucy Gernon (49:33.018)

Yeah.

 

Enya (49:42.574)

It’s not like, and that’s how I ended up making the page is because I just used to crack me friends up so much all the time. And I was so witty and I’d be so quick and I’d know exactly how to like, you know, make a holy show in front of other people and stuff. And I’d humble them. I’d be like, yeah, you were slagging me about this. What about this and that? And if I don’t know you, I can’t be that way with you, you know? So when a stranger comes up to me in a shopping center or something like that, like I was only in Mickey Valley yesterday.

 

And the amount of people who are on the shop floor walking, they’re like, hey, Enya, this still feels a bit bizarre, because you’re looking at them like, I don’t know you, but you know me. It’s really awkward. And they’re like, hey, you have to act like you know them, you know? And like, know I follow you, you probably don’t know who I am, but I’m really shy. Like, I’m really, shy. Like, a lot of people probably think that’s how I am all the time when I’m on stage, and I’m not, unless I’m just in a really comfortable environment, and I know you, you know?

 

Lucy Gernon (50:13.463)

I know what you’re thinking.

 

Lucy Gernon (50:33.669)

Yeah, it’s part of your personality, but you’ve got so many other parts to it. I as well, like, what do you what makes you laugh? What do you watch? Actually, what do you watch? Like I meant to like to crime and all that kind of stuff. But my husband wants me to watch more comedy. What kind of things do you watch? What makes you laugh?

 

Enya (50:49.838)

So people are always like, who’s your favorite comic and stuff like that? Like I never watched stand-up comedy when I was growing up. Like I just, I don’t watch another comic and think how can I be like them because everybody, every comic has their own niche and you know, they’re their own individual person. But I do look at other comics for inspiration, you know, so like I love Kevin Bridges and I do find her, even though like I find him very, very funny, I find her hard to watch other comics because it’s…

 

Lucy Gernon (50:53.689)

You’re like myself. Hello.

 

Enya (51:18.624)

It’s like a musician watching a band like, I know how they set the guitar up. I know how they got that chord. I know why they did it this way. Like when you’re watching a comedian, this is called a callback joke. So they’ll set it up like about 20 minutes beforehand and then they’ll come back to it then 20 minutes later and the whole audience will erupt with laughter. Like, see how I did that. I know they’re going to do that. And like he’s at the plant and that’s the idea. So he’s going to, and then he does, he brings it back around 20 minutes later and

 

I know where he’s going with this joke, he’s going to do this. You start to learn the tricks of the trades and get over analyzing it. And it’s like you can’t enjoy it. I’ve been so, yeah. So, and then I compare on your side, but like how did they think of that joke? That’s such a good joke. Like I’d love if I had thought of that.

 

Lucy Gernon (51:58.703)

I know.

 

Lucy Gernon (52:02.245)

Go back to your Faulty Terrorist days. my God, I was raised a Faulty Terrorist. That was just the best back in the day. Love that.

 

Enya (52:09.186)

Yeah, so I was now, was like a sponge when I was younger. Like I did love watching all that stuff and you know, lot of slapstick comedy and stuff. And I always had funny bones, but I was like incredibly shy as a kid. wasn’t still secondary school. I started coming out my shell, but I was a bit of a weirdo. Like I was a bit of a weird child. Like, but I had friends and only if you knew me, you knew how funny I was. But in terms of like, you know, even stuff I in my downtime, I just.

 

Sometimes I watch Netflix. have a very short attention span. I find it hard to read books and stuff. I do find that going for a walk, going to my local coffee shop or going to the gym is just a break away from everything online or, you know, walk related.

 

Lucy Gernon (52:51.973)

Yeah, fabulous. So you’re just a normal person. I’m hearing like everyone else. So, and yeah, listen, you’ve been an amazing guest on the show. am bringing in something that I’m going to test with you. Let’s see how we go. It’s five and 90 rapid fire round. So I’m going to ask you five questions. Got 90 seconds to get into them. How’s that sound?

 

Enya (52:56.514)

Yeah.

 

Enya (53:10.37)

Yeah, let’s try it.

 

Lucy Gernon (53:11.693)

Okay, you can do one word, one sentence. We have 90 seconds. Okay. The first one is what’s one thing you wish more women would stop apologizing for?

 

Enya (53:25.76)

maneuvering around you if you’re in the women’s toilets just sorry, sorry, sorry.

 

You

 

Lucy Gernon (53:31.683)

What one thing you love to do for fun that might surprise people?

 

Enya (53:42.069)

I love playing games, love playing quizzes and stuff, it’s so much of this. I love doing bingo, pub quizzes, quizzes with the friends, yeah, stuff like that.

 

Lucy Gernon (53:50.425)

Very good. What’s a life hack you wish more people knew or something that you’re like, my God, if I knew this sooner.

 

Enya (53:58.694)

Gratitude waking up in the morning and just taking three things you’re grateful for and you will you’ll be you be in a bit of a better mood than you were beforehand

 

Lucy Gernon (54:06.167)

Amazing. And what do success, balance and happiness mean to you?

 

Enya (54:12.43)

You definitely need time to just, like I said, be any one. any two, number two version is your career version, but you need to make time for yourself, your family and friends. It can’t all be about work.

 

Lucy Gernon (54:25.015)

Love that. And finally, what’s the best piece of advice you’ve ever received?

 

Enya (54:31.406)

Best piece of advice, oh this is, I’ll drink loads. I would just say, if it was down to social media and you wanted to make content, post the video, don’t be a carbon copy of anybody else, don’t care what anybody else thinks, people will love you for you and your vibe attracts your tribe.

 

Lucy Gernon (54:49.509)

Oh, love that. Amazing. thank you so much for being a fabulous first guest on the new Rebranded show. I’m so excited to go back and listen to this interview. Enya, guys, is touring everywhere, all around Ireland, even out to Australia. And Enya, if people want to find out more details about you, they can follow you on Gizelaf. We will add your show notes in our show or your links and show notes. Where else can people find you? Where do want people to go?

 

Enya (55:12.93)

TikTok, Instagram, Facebook is a laugh and then my coaching page, I’m just on Instagram with my coaching page, it’s Coach Enya.

 

Lucy Gernon (55:14.629)

She’s everywhere.

 

Lucy Gernon (55:20.453)

Coach Enya, fantastic. All right, listen, thank you so much for being an amazing guest on the show, guys. We will see you again next week, same time, same place. Bye for now.

 

Enya (55:29.986)

Thanks Lucy.